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Barham i ARING OQd DETEARitdG CHII.DF3~7 SMOKIIQG
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United States Senzta, "
Subcomm-i'ttee on Heal2h, and Scientific Research
of the Co:maittea on Human Resources,
' rvashington, D. Cv
The Subcommititee mot, pursuant to ca12',- in Room 4232 of.
the Dirksen.Senate azf?:ce-Buxlding, at 101:14 a.m., the Ho.n-
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ozahSe Edward M. Kenaedy, Chairmaan, presidiE.g.,
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Present: Se;nators Kenraedy, Schweiker, and Chafee.
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Senator Chafee. II.adies anc7 gentlemen, we will now start
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SUBCOid[°IIiTEE ON HEALTH AID SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH
CON111ITTEE ON HUMAN RESOURCES
HEARING ON DETERRIIdG CHILDHOOD SMOKING
IVashington, ll. C.
F'tay 25, .1978
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am not a Sosor of this part.ieular brt.. S' did; agree to
sponsor th® bill on the hoalLh education program on which
another hearimg will be hold, so I would like the record to
show that I did not cosponsor 3115, the'coraprcSaousive bill,
or S. 3117 or S. 3118, because I have soase uaresolvcad problems
an both bills. I am a sponsor ofS. 3116, a bill which ex-
pands formula grants and project grant progrruua attdcreates
a Leew program ots hsalt"h pxomotioon and disease prQvention:.
I com© here with amopen mind and will ba glad to hear,
the test:.mony today.
Thank you very much, Rir. Chairman. .
Senator Chafes. Well, thank you, Senator Schk=®iker.
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A panel consisting of:
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Tsa5aL.7.o D. E.raffal3, Jr., Yd.n., Preeidcsrst-elec$,
Amarican Cancc3r, Society; Bor.al.d Young, M.D. ,
Alambe.r, 31mertcan Thoracic Sociefy,"aad Formsr
Misdicax Director, AmFSrica.z Iiii Association;
fdofiert Mi. Daugherty, Jr.., M.D., Ph.D., Chair-
man, SubccsemiWtem onSr,aoki:ng,. P..rnrican eie;art
Association; _SaIm S. Ba~i3ahf,. 1110 Exacuti,ve.
Director and Chi2eE Couszsel:, &ction on Smoking
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millions of'dollars.into anti-smokiag iaigiativms and puni-
tive legislation which have no guarantee of success.
14nothsr ap.;esti.on that must. ba addressed fs why tobacco
has been singled out as th8 focal point of'this Subcom7.itt®e:'s
preventive heaith program.
Why aren't similar efforts being ddirected towards the
thousands of, aste chemicals which are poured into tho environ-
ment each year? _
Why isn't equal enthusiasm boiaig directed toward~ tha
estimawd 1,500 suhstancLs in tho workir.g place cahich Idsh*
suspects to be carccer-causing?
i'm all for finding new ways to cut dowz tho high inci-
doace of carccr.in,CYfis country, but i'n not convinced that
the approach you have propossd will produce any substantive
results.
A third and fundamental issue at,stake is tho quasYioa ..
of individual freedom ot~ choico.
As: Presidential Eealth Advisor, ;Dr. Peter Bourne,
pointed out last year: °1Yo matterr how much one may favor
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I prohibition of tobacco products, uch,a move.is 300 ysars w
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Thc chof:ca3 rests--as it shouZd°-withths, individhzal. ,~A
Those Mhc want to u_^-e tobac; o wi1.i--'chosa , who prefer not to,
w*oa't. You oatsiot lcgislate choice--rhat:`s what roiving in a
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SOnator' Chafea. And now our first witirzQss, is a Senator
of grQah disginct;ion Who I am delighted to n:alco_ here, from
the state of S{en :ucl:y, SEmator Wendell Ford«
Smaa2or, we are, so g].ad' you are hore and look forward to
your 4ksstimoay..
Senator Fo:d. Tl:a_a;c you, N,r.. Chai .rnan. Ti was expecting
f.he distinguished Sarczforr from Masaaclxasatr,-hs to be here, and
some of my s'hatemerat is couched in tkta vbin that he wouid' be
chairnua.n, and. so a ycu, will forg,ive me I wi13l not let you
look like E:Y.e Scns:tor from giassachvs%tbs.
Senator Chafeo. t;o11, any brcadside!s you icose at him
I will be glad to absorb, because I am a cosponsor of tyhe
bill.
Ser_ator. Ford. I usderstard th,fi, but I. jusC,waated you
to know that th_ te;rms of my sya3emcnb were couched otherwise,
because we have beeu adversaries before--ar,d you aro a ucaw
one.
(Laughter )
I havcas'b sttsae:C 3 your tact;f_cs yet.
Senator Cha2ee. Well, I don"8 wai.t to d!ivprt- your fire
anyway, but a,£ Vh4rc are any sh.a£tEs you wish to +utirow this
f di=cctior I eai1l be glad bo rocoive rhWse.
5eas3bor SchweLkex.Th~--y are both from NCea Es:glano1, if W
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goverrimsnt. And. here, with only th° ad3ff.ion of $4 million
for research,
I think this is the ansorar--rt.ot billions of dollars. And'
why tax one crop. --asbestos, for iustsncv, that is can,cea-
causing--and let this be a preven:ative measure?
. Senator Chafes. k'ell, I think thai tha i®videnco is very,
very clear that 90 percent ofi lung cancer derives from smoking.
Senator Eard. What about asb sstos? What's tl:s figure
on that? .
Senator Chaea. Well, it diTrides up tha balanca of the.
ten p2.rcaat. But wheu you have got a figure
Senator reFd. You can get any rese,archer you want--aszd
I th.iaek you can fird, sag thi$g to, reLuts that. There is also
a plus to,tobacco, if you will recall. There ar4 many pluses
as relates to heart attacks and, other th3uags.. And irouw, have.
to take into consids:rat:on right now: this is a protain-
short country, and fsactiou 1---
Senator Chafes. Sxcus9 ma. I miss ,d that--did you say
there asci pluses to bok+acco?' .
Senator persd. Yes, sir, the rasearch says tha4: smoking
is halpf.ul, ahd tfsre are pesceutages, and.I can tive you the
staE:.istics:--i doea "a. ?:avr them with ma-°bu^ I cer: aialy will.
Asc you familiar wig:;: faaci:ion 1? 0
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Sereztor CesaL-cn. Null, thoe~e i.sarf~.xags ara goisag oan for W.
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° Se+nae f Ford. , Yes, sir, and tYieyC ilI bs in, one of my
committees.
Senator Chafes. Aasd . we have invitodd a reprras®ntative
from the Tobacco Iastituts and the aotice, which they felt
was too short Seaaator. ?ord. Well, notified cn 7,'eiosday to be here on
Thursday is a Iittid short for"me.
Senator Craee. Well, youare prepa~:redia this. srabjoct. .
Senator Ford. T hope so.
Smrator CTa3fes. But if there is evidence that tobacco ia
baa.Cffici:a]i, we ceTeaa:nly would bz glad' to hear it..
Senator Ford.. I would be glad to bring it' to you, Sana-
tor. And~nort only is it bsa e£icial--are you familiar witb
fsactioa 1?
Senator Chafdn. itali, I'm not.
Scsav.a.tor Ford. Okay, "ere12, fraction 1, you seeR is the
protein that has kx:en d# s:cov3red in tobacco.Aad tF,ey r.rQ
moving forward wif:h that right now in a, protein-shoit couatry.
It is esv3.:datedd that you ca:. takz.ths protesia from tobacco--
you can take care of 60, LziL3ion f.air~±.lies wa.th what is boung
p_roduaed now by tobac::o,.snd still have your cigarettes. And
so you are trying Va camagQ a crap here and pu.t it out of
busir_ess that has rsa oppozLu.nity to solve maz.y of the problmrrs
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Senator Chaz'ao. Well, this bf.lJ:, as you kricsf, is ~
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?;f Chairruas., The shearr econotucs of this situation dictate fiQd-
411 ®ffact, L.his legislation could_ do.
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There is one final point that neecc3s to be made, Mr.
Tobacco,is a multi-billion dollar bc.sirr.ess.. Mor&than
600,000, farm fami':lies f¢ore than 90 pefca:t of small family
farmsn iirs my state alone) derive much. of' their $ncome from
tobacco. Throughout the yw2ars o eahaustive dabata over
tobacco, no osfe haB coma forth with an alterga5:ive crop that
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11i sufficient.
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hundYtsd;ss of other c,ops uould:hrive3 in the rich farmland of,
my stata a.zsd elsewhere. But the cash receipts to, be derived'
from any of thessa alterzaakives urould be .ar from sufficieat
to suppo::t es::.hzr a famiiy or ".:j%e farm. -
bSr. CYeainaan, T_ doh°'k want to see thcs Ce,ngress, throaagh
this 2egyslat:.or, be awi lz3irc acwYssory to th-3 further demise
of ths f«s2i:3} fa..^m--bzcause unless 4fe find a, suitable alterna-
tive, that's -whara will happsr arictthese. peop3:e axe going to
I Fse left with only two eh:o..ces: ?cave the £a-mzhy hrm or ert.d
up on welfaro.
[The fol2o!.ring was reecsived for S:he rFcord:
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Is it hat unmaconable to considar EuppoTting--instsad
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of undexsaining--what I perceive to be a sincere and.intense
effort to save an i.ndustry that provides billions oE: dollars
of' income; fcor millions of Americana?
As I have reminded.my distinguished colleagues many times,
tobacco is a pliable produ_t, a,product £ro.v which impuritiel
can be rembved in as't short a tiaa as two groaiing seasons.
That flexibility facilitates resesarch such as ty+z kind
which is now being conductadonn smeking and hQa?tht at the.
Lfniversity of ite<ztacky's Tobacco Research wnstitute., Since
the Tobacco Rpsearesl, Institute's creatioa in 1972, mcre tztiaa,
$3.7 million annually of state funds has bsen direcfed into
massive research a^d study. That resQarcTa helped' deveToped
the current lou--car and. -3s.cotine cigaret-Les which are now
on the market.
L'mt my rcpeaY.ed calls for increased research initiatives
at the fE:disral level continue to fall on deaf ears. According
to Health, Sducatien, and'. ktmlfarer decretary e'.ali£aao,, the
only budget incroase fcr research on. htaalth-relatod aspects
of sxo::i..~gi will amount 2o a more 1,M mi711ion in fi ~ca?i year
197Q--an anuount just slightly more than what is n&a bes,ngI
directed to research in one s:uta--with szon-fed.r-ral dollars
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TYee difi:dvttids to occur Eram this rcisearch will ba, far 0...
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