Philip Morris
Transcript of Proceedings Hearing on Deterring Childhood Smoking
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- Adams, M.
- Chafee
- Evans, R.I.
- Foege, W.H.
- Griffith, C.
- Kennedy, E.M.
- Omalley, M.
- Pinney, J.
- Reilley, M.
- Schweiker
- Valeo, J.
- Wolff, T.
- Chafee
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- Comm on Human Resources
- Senate
- Subcomm on Health + Scientific Research
- Senate
- Document File
- 2024955945/2024956148/Teenage Smoking
- Named Person
- Adams, M.
- Banzhaf, J.S. III
- Califano
- Chafee
- Daugherty, R.M., J.R.
- Debakke
- Dirksen
- Evans, R.I.
- Foege, W.H.
- Ford, W.H.
- Green, P.
- Griffith, C.
- Kennedy, E.M.
- Kretchmer, N.
- Leffall, L.D., J.R.
- Mcluhan, M.
- Omalley, M.
- Pinney, J.
- Reilley, M.
- Schweiker
- Surgeon General
- Swinehart, J.W.
- Valeo, J.
- Wolff, T.
- Young, D.
- Banzhaf, J.S. III
- Litigation
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- Named Organization
- American Cancer Society
- American Heart Assn
- American Lung Assn
- American Thoracic Society
- Ash, Action on Smoking & Health
- Baylor College of Medicine
- Bethesda Chevy Chase High School
- Centers for Disease Control
- Congress
- Gonzaga College High School
- Green Dolmatch Advertising
- Hew, Dept of Health Education and Welfare
- House
- Immaculata High School
- Natl Inst of Child Health
- Natl Inst of Child Health + Human Develo
- Office of Smoking + Health
- Princeton
- Public Communications Center
- Subcomm on Smoking
- Univ of Houston
- Wv Wesleyan
- American Heart Assn
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SUBCOMMITTEE ON HEALTH ANt} SCIENT'IR'IC RESEAIRC H
COMIVITTTEE ON HUMAN RESOURCES
HEAR~INa'~ ORDETERItIING ~~ CHILDHpCD~~ SMOKING
Was}iington., D. C.
May 25, 1978
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STAM~N:' ' PAGB
The Honorable ti:andeZl H. Ford, Democrzt, Iti;e.a2ncky
A pa'r 3I roprea=ting th!o Ad.mini etration:
William. H. Foage, M.D. , Director, Center for
Disease Contro2.: Nornva, Rretchmer, ' ri. D. ,.
Direct.or, National Xnstitufi.e of Child fiva2ti,h ~ni, -
Pund 13~*Tuan Devolapmrnt; and' Jahn Pianey, pirector
Of f ic:: of Smok3.ng s;~d Health, tepartme:nt of
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ChariEs Griffith, Goraa'ga Co? lege High School;
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Richaxd T., E`vans, Ph.D., Professor of Psychology,
Uuy.vcxsity of HGu:4on, I?ou3toz, Texas, 3ames 1-7.
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>'1EARI.NGOh1 DET~,'FL12, IiiiG CHIIirDHDOD SI+;OKING
THURSDAY, MAY 25, 1978
United States Senzte,
Subcommittee on~ bealth and Scientific Ressarch
of the Co:nmittee on Human Resources,
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The Subcommittee met, pursuant to call,-ia Room 4232 of
the Dir3:sen Senat+e Oxfice Building, at I0 :14 a.m., the Hon-
orable orab26 Edsaard M. Kennedy, C'hairman,, presiding.
PzEser,t: Senators Kennedy, Schweiker, and Chafee.
Senator Chafee. Ladies and' gentle-me:a, we will now start
our hearing. Senator Kennedy is unable to be here until later
on, but he hais a statement.
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STATEMENT OF APA_'~EZ REE'P,E'SENTIN6 TdE AD-
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NORMM KRETCRMiER, M.D. , DTR'ECTOR, NATIONAL
INSTITUTES O7CIiILJ HEALTH AVD H'i1MFiU
DEV£LOPIAENT~ AND JOEM PllkidSY, ' DTF3,^I,'OR,,
OrFICEOF SMOKING AM RE_a:IT.13, DEPARTIKEh"X
ON HEc~;?.,TKi, EDO.Cr IOK AND S!E.IFA=
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Senat!or Chaf~.~. Tn© ne.vt panel will be made up of Dr.
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i5 lQge to have known Dr. Foe:e and ceen him before. And why
i6 doa`'t wa stB-rt off with Dr. Fofzge, and t,Y.en ti-e will take the
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respon4ibility.
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The ten &eparatowarning reessages would a_tract greaterr
interast~, through both novelty and varie_y, t.ban tho single
message now used. SeRaral of. thezyn--for example, the one osa
da.,-naga to the unborn child--would have tr.+s further advaai
of c$Ilang attention to apecff{c threats that may not yet bb.
Wid.6ly r+acr.gnizod.
If the decision is aade to requira a variety of smassages,
the specif ic wording of each nee-ds to bt3 carefully considered.
I would moge~ that the conditional "kiay bz" cou3.d' be avoided,
zz3 that in every caaa r.here the Evidcn :e is supportive that
the force of the s`atement "is 'da.nge-rous" could bu ret.ained.,
~' I would em-pbasizc that inrar.nf.ngs should be requfsred in adver-
tising as well as on packages.
Scctioo 10, I+ir. Chair-^...an, is the portion which is to us
the hcart of th 2egislat=on. This is the area of greatest
concerc to the Dop3rtn ,nt. It is also the, area in which we
have been the least successful in, the past. W© can point witit:
someAridr to eiCnixica:nt decreases in smokiag amoag.adults--
fsrst tmo:z g n*.cales ar:3, receTMtly, a'mong, fcmaaies. But with
chiZ':~ren and youth, thepicttira is dif ezesat.
Smo'.i::.g a.AOrg bo, s has h+ard].y chang3d i~n tah~o last d+srrAo.
(1u- most re.^.es*+t fice;.es, wh3czh 'wi.il be upda.,ad', riurizg, rher
coming su=.:r, sh:,w that five rsascent of boys betweon 12' and
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sozmwhat mo1ei than 30 percent of boyo 17 and 18 smcke.
ago 18, the habit of smoking is wo, l-establishcd, and we
think this is tnnfortunate a:nd' shocking.
MeanWhile, smoking among~ girls has incr+aased' dramatically.
In the 196 0' s about twice as many boys aa g ir ls smoked': now, at
evacy age, Yavei girls are smoking atthe same rate as boys.
S3+snator Sch"ikQr. Doctor, do we have any inormation or
ovidenco at all to indicate why, what's the reason for the
upsurge among fceenagn girls?
D=. Eo;aga. We are aot c3rtQin of this, but we thi.nic that
this is duo partia? zy to the now equality of the sexos that
we arasaoi''x:g, an<3' wa ar=* hoping, theareioro, that now that
they are equal they will both go down together.
Senator SchwoikAr. Ecrnzal right to get lung cancer to-
gether?
Dr. Foaga. xhat`s riaht. Tha lagislaWion which you have
introduced recogzizos the imporfrance of' reEOarch in d'iroc: itzg
our efforts. k1ansed to learn more about smoking behaviorr
tha:n we know now, particularly rrc-g;arding smoking behavior
alIIong' c;laldrt3a.
In the Prosident's budget for FY '79, wo are requesting
$4 m3Z!lion for t'hzi r3 :tionai Inst itute on Child Hi3alth and'
Hum.an Development to f.nvesuigatG the childhood ds:Y.ermi.aants
of sJoking baiis;rior.
1'~t this point, ].!et me em-phasiz® that the primary goal
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of our pr+evention prograraa with childrOn, as well as adults,
is to provide eduvetion and to conduct resaa:rch that will
onhancet not reduce, pyszsc,nal choice. We must understand that
am13-ynar-old smoksr dces not necessarily represent free
will. That,smokc3r may well be, the rfc:pTesientatf.on of bondage
due to insufficion.t information to makm a delibt3rafce informed
choice. Do our te=agrjrs truuly understa.nd, as emphasized by
Secrstary Caliieno, that smokiF-g is inde:td sZQa-motioa sui-
cide?
One of the riosL affective ways we have found to infiorm
chiidren and young people is through health educati.on in the
schoo? s. Sozo e=cc13 ent schooZ curricula have alroady been
dv=lalop::d and t3slZ:~d' for ©lc-.~fiary school ch=_ldren.
There is a part'ic-s].arly urgent nasd to dQvelop Educati on-
al prograAs for taer,3gc:.s. bT'hilm we are gathering new know-
led7o, wa rust aiso a:aly, wti.at we alrewdy lasow about tecnag6
at;:it-u?ats toward smoking, and about how te~ag~srs learn.
SurV;:y$ Li3'tT;'ir,t .9'h1vva, for .,5tr.~~..°L'cai L'haa,:
--W$rhty-Fcuz pvrc.-n_ of teenage, mo ,ers aci*eit that
smoking is haitt-forring,
---E:i.xt;y-nfsn.e Frarcen¢ Leal{ to ; h~.t suotiing slows thsm
dov.n in sports,
--Two-th3.:da baix*va that smoka.Mg is just as harmful as
thcxr doctors and tra-acb-ars an& parsr.:s szy,
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their children tvon "t EsoKe.
The final section of S. 3115 calls upon the Secretary
to study and report back wit.b{ n two years on the relative
health risk associatl*d with smaking cigazcattes of varying
Levols, and the relaticnship of ta.r, nicotine, and variouss
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additivQs to health risks.
These ttmp qu3sfiions, in ojr opinioa, are asong "tho most
'am: orta'at public health guestions of our tihe. Y143 are nowl
be3iam-1.ngvo.r3: on the 1979 Surgmon General "st -Report: Thi.ss
will be. the most i,apcri.a.r,t ta%vic5w of informaia:onon smo3ting
sirace the j<ubL*.ca'~.:ioa of t~'~e, or~.ginal r~sport nearly fiftecm
yflars ogj,.
As part of this efLort, th« zacacias will be Ioo~~ing att
the changes c4laich have ta):en! place in thr3 ci;arette itself,,
and will attexapt tio evaluate th0 2ealth sig'-nificanr.e of these
charegcs. On fiahebasis of this ir_forrnatioa, KEili will focvs
attenwios on many aspcc3;s of tye cuestions pcsa: in, 3118, r.nd
it is our hope that this information will be available bafore.
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thc' c*zd o' two year's.
Se,nator Jcbz.M:i':Lr.. May T_ intorrupt just one minaao? We
just m&rl.ad up tho L&bor-HvW bi1?: yWsz:a..:day, amd on. the
,:aalttu t2:ucation. t.raoSzi:g :~cllAon I think, the P.c3.mi.-Astratron--
not cn child health, but the oth-;:r--wc took it frcn 8 million,
re,_uost absrae the 12 a:ia.lion the House
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evidence, our policy and our po6xtion has beesa very definite-
ly to encourage people to szno3:e lowAr-ta:r lower-nicotine ci-
garett4s.
Sezaator Kennedy. Okay. Scnator Chafee?
Soaa:or ChaRw. Dick, do you have any cjuesti'mns?
Senator Schwsikar. Jus t a coup? :. ' Firat, I do: want to
coument CDC and HEWfor their work in~ this area. I am strong-
ly supportive of' the bill xhar.e ~ra talk-.44 about clean indoor
air ar:d noa-s-p okers' rights. I thin}c this is long owordus,
and whilo I have sose problem-s wit!h other scctions of the
bill, I don't have any probZems with that and I strongly sup-
port it. I assure you that in tarms of the appropriations
aspects, we will giva you the money to do the job.
I would like:4:o ask one or two questions. Dr. Foege,
you ineMtioned on p3ge 12--or you ask the question, which is
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